https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-tn6wu-10be653
Tom McCulloch served as Brian Dugans defense attorney where Dugan had been charged in other murders and not that of Jeanine Nicarico, even though he had confessed to her kidnapping and murder. Jeff and Jia discuss his interactions and experiences defending Dugan in part 1 of a 2 part interview.